Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Kampalalalalalalalala

So I am in Kampala. I am not realizing just how much I missed really tasty food.

I got Coco puffs and a sausage roll and almost died from happiness.

Now, I didn't miss these things at all when I was in Sudan, but now that I am in civilization, it is kind of strange how happy I am to have them. And milk. And cheese.

Anyway...

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Kampala is FUNKY. It is a weird city if I have ever seen one. On one hand, it is a LOT like new york. When you are downtown, it looks just like it... just not very diverse.

But on the other hand... Everyone here has just recently come from tribes. Very few people have actually been born in Kampala. So that influences all kinds of things and makes them so strange.

One thing that is funny is how... even though I don't know how this would happen... the bodas are MORE dangerous here then they are in Sudan.

Yeah.

I mean, picture Manhatten traffic, add in badly potholed roads, and add in about 50,000 motorcycle buzzing in and out of every gap that is wide enough for their handlebars to fit through... and some that aren't.

I have already seen someone wreck on one of them, and almost had a wreck (When you are driving highspeed next to a car and it starts to change lanes... onto you... that's bad. I had to beat on the van with my fist to get it to stop so we could live)

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So I'll type more about Kampala later, but for now I wanted to say something that has been on my mind a lot during this trip.

Now, in most churches in Africa, there is a certain way to pray. This way includes lots of screaming and intense looks on your face and shaking and bending.

See, one of the things I do most is wonder. I wonder about a lot of things in the church. Now, I don't especially trust my wisdom, so I don't want to be foolish and speak out against things.... But I still wonder.

One of the things I wonder most about is this kind of prayer. I don't understand it. I mean, from reading the Bible I seem to have gotten something much different then everyone else.

See this is how I understand it, biblically: I am talking to God.

Not very complicated.

So... I know God hears me when I talk to him, so logically, I should talk to him the way I talk to any other person who hears me. But it seems like a lot of people talk to God as if he doesn't really hear them. Or as if his ears are really bad from his old age.

For instance, according to me, when I ask God for stuff it is like asking Trevor (my brother) for his ice cream. Now if I want him to give me his ice cream he just scooped, which many times, because I am lazy, I do, I will say "Hey Trevor, can you give me that ice cream please?" Now if he is in a good mood, he will give it to me... he is a nice brother and he cares about me.

So that is how I logically see talking to God. I need something, I ask for it. It takes about ten seconds. But that is not typically how I see prayer in the church today.

Back to Trevor: If he is in a bad mood, he will be hesitant. If he is, I would beg more until he gave it to me (assuming I really wanted ice cream that badly). If he was in a REALLY bad mood, I might have to beg for like... a minute.

So it seems like most people take the "Bad mood" example to justify praying over and over for the same thing, really fervently. They point to the example of the widow coming to the Judge and bothering him until he go so annoyed that he gave way. Or the example of the man knocking and knocking at the door until finally the annoyed occupant came and gave him food. As if we "win" things from God through endurance.

But personally, the way I have seen God, through the bible and through my experiences, he is not some person who only gives us things when we annoy him enough. He is a father, and he is unchanging. Like Trevor if he was in an amazing, loving mood all the time. I mean, if I was in a good mood I would give my brother or sister anything they want, as long as it is in my power to give it to them. And I am very limited in love, I am very selfish, very needy, and generally a broken human being. God, on the other hand, is none of those things. He is perfectly loving, perfectly selfless, and he is complete. So the idea that he would only give me something if I annoy him enough seems ridiculous to me. If I, being a sinner and a broken person, would give my brother anything in my power to give him if he just asked, how much more would God, being perfect, give me anything as long as I just ask??

But lots of peoples prayer doesn't seem to reflect this principle. When they want to pray for something, they say "IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY FOR SUCH AND SUCH TO HAPPEN, LORD JESUS MIGHTY FATHER! AND I PRAY THAT SUCH AND SUCH WOULD TOTALLY HAPPEN, LORD JESUS MIGHTY FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD CAUSE SUCH AND SUCH TO HAPPEN WITH YOUR MIGHTY HAND, LORD JESUS MIGHTY FATHER!!! I PRAY AGAINST THE POWERS OF SATAN, LORD JESUS MIGHTY FATHER, THAT ARE PREVENTING SUCH AND SUCH FROM HAPPENING AND I BINNNNNNNND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, LORD JESUS MIGHTY FATHER, YOU WILL NOT PREVAIL!!!!!!!"

Now, when I hear this... I simply cannot escape picturing the same manner of speaking in the context of me asking for ice cream:

I go up to Trevor, and getting my best "intense" face on, I raise my hands and scream: "IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE ME THAT ICE CREAM, BROTHER TREVOR AWESOME GUY! AND I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ICE CREAM, BROTHER TREVOR AWESOME GUY, AND I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CAUSE YOUR ICE CREAM, BROTHER TREVOR AWESOME GUY, TO COME INTO MY HANDS RIGHT NOW!!!! I PRAY AGAINST THE POWERS OF SATAN THAT ARE PREVENTING ICE CREAM FROM COMING FORTH INTO MY POSSESION, BROTHER TREVOR AWESOME GUY, AND I BINNNNNNNNND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOU WILL NOT PREVAIL!!!!!"

Now I picture him sitting there stunned for a couple seconds, and saying "Wow... all you had to do was ask." Or maybe "Were you really even talking to me, or just saying stuff?"

Do we not have faith unless we feel like we have done something to deserve the thing we are praying for? Like we have somehow won it by endurance? Don't we know that all the pacing and screaming and repeating in the world couldn't make us deserve a penny from God?

Maybe I am wrong. I mean, in Acts they were praying fervently for Paul's release. But then again... they obviously didn't have faith for it, as they did not even believe that he was at the front door. Maybe sometimes that kind of prayer works because it makes us believe that what we are praying for will happen, though if we were to have the faith and just say "God", it would also happen.

I don't know... so I don't teach... but I do wonder. A lot. In fact I am quite torn about the issue right now. On one hand I don't want to seem like some unspiritual, uncomfortable christian in the prayer meetings here, but on the other hand I feel so stupid screaming my lungs out for things for hours when God says all I have to do is ask.

What do you guys think?

7 comments:

Claire(ify), please. said...

hmmmm

well of course God is able. so that isn't really the question at hand. if anything, it has to do with us. i completely agree that sometimes we "feel" more Christian when we cry and scream and use lots of big, religious words...but that in the end all we have to do is ask nicely and believe. If anything it's our faith that sucks, not God's hearing abilities.

but sometimes God wants us to be persistant. He wants to see how long we're willing to wait for His will and just how passionate we are for the things of His heart. It's a test of our faith and willingness. And mayyybe, though i can't say for sure, some things have such a stronghold around them that it takes a little sweat and tears. maybe there ARE forces that won't give up until we shake the heavens. As much as God is the victor, Satan DOES have a hold on this earth....

and sometimes the passion just comes from the heart of God. Jesus intercedes for us 24/7, so there must be something to be said for the lost. Sometimes God gives me specific things to pray for in a situation, then He brings His heart into the matter and it's almost too much to bear.

that's a really good point though. Prayer has become religious in so many ways when it's the least religious thing in the world, unless you count conversation as religion.

:)

Anonymous said...

i agree with you, seeing that he loves us like crazy, he is our dad, and he is all powerfull, it seems like he would be happy to give us so much, but i think he also wants us to be humble enough to go crazy if need be ;) but alot of times he is cool with what we are asking for, and it never hurts to give him a lil more praise for saving us.

Alex

mk said...

First: The ice cream / intense prayer analogy was great.

Second: I wonder about that too. I find it best to examine the Bible.
"Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil." 1 Thessalonians 5:16-22

So. Pray without ceasing. This really says a lot about your attitude towards prayer. It really is just talking to God as if you were talking to a friend, parent, etc, except that he's obviously much more loving and perfect than anyone else can be.
Also, if you're going to pray without ceasing, it's gonna get pretty hard to be doing the whole LORD ALMIGHTY!!! thing constantly.
However, it also says "do not quench the spirit." Often times, as you know, the Holy Spirit brings out passions and emotions during prayer meetings, worship services, etc, that definitely wouldn't be displayed on a regular basis, during most of the time of praying without ceasing. So... I'm supposing that means pray, all the time, as if you're just talking with God, but when the Spirit is moving, don't hinder it.

But yeah, I'm not quite as learned as others, so think about it yourself and ask God what he thinks.

Also... in Africa it's a cultural thing, but I'm certain you already knew that.

Rebecca P said...

Well, I'm glad to see you're safely in Kampala, since you obviously don't REPLY TO EMAILS ANYMORE! Grrrrr...

Nicole said...

Justin, I think God knows each of our personalities and he just loves to hear us talk. He "stoops down to make us great." I always think of this when I think how Jesus listens to me. I picture him laying close to a cloud (which, of course, isn't a totally accurate picture) and then leaning in real close to hear even our heartbeat prayers. (real example from yesterday: I wanted chocolate real bad after school yesterday, didn't verbalize or even pray and Maddie Marra runs right by me and gives me like half an awesome chocolate cookie). SO cool!

But, sometimes we want to be loud! We are mad, we are crying, we are singing with joy - God loves that we are so emotive. God loves what thrills our heart. These things thrill my heart and get me excited. I love to hear Africans pray, but I love to hear quiet poets pray, too. Different expressions of God's glory.

What Claire says is true - God just wants us to talk to Him - constantly, about everything, on and on. I've been having prattling conversations with friends lately - I LOVE THEM. I also LOVE talking to my Creator and that's what God asks. So, my answer is be open to prayer in any and every form, try new things, and be honored to talk to God the way He's made you to talk to Him. Oh, I've been talking to Him in poetry lately - it's so fun.

colorful love and paint said...

Hey you--You need to read my blog I wrote today--'cause I want to pray for you if you're going thru any of it, or even if you're not, tell me what to pray for 'n such =D

Anonymous said...

(I really hate when I try to say something and than something happens and you have to retype it all...this is where my test of patience comes in. So anyways in brief I said:)

This really gives me a fresh perspective on how I should be seeking God because I would hear at times to "Seek, not strive".

I think I have a problem understanding grace because I feel like I have to live up to something in order to receive what I ask for. I feel like I am not good enough to get things and than when I am trying to do what God wants me to do or once I have felt I am "perfect" enough I ask and still do not get. I do not understand this so often times I feel God is holding out on me.

I try to focus on what God HAS done for me. but many times I will feel like He is selective with His love (though not true).

I seek. I pray. I praise. I love. I live for Him as best as I can...I mean am I being a Martha? I think I JUST answered my question, so maybe I am not sitting at Jesus' feet enough? Probably. I am not satisfied, but sometimes I feel like I am trying too hard or not enough :/

It really created some suckiness.